"It was pretty random. I didn’t really know what I wanted to do yet. I did enjoy the artistic side of education at my Waldorf school, particularly drawing and photography. At one point, I had a summer job in Tilburg and was cycling home with a neighbor boy. We were talking about what to do after high school, and he mentioned he was considering the Design Academy in Eindhoven to become a product designer. That sounded exciting to me, too. So when I finished high school, I put together a portfolio of drawings, illustrations, and photos. Unfortunately, it didn't align with what the Design Academy was looking for, and I was rejected. A friend of my brother was studying 3D design and architecture at the Academy of Art and Industry (AKI) in Enschede, which had a very lenient admissions process. I thought: Let me give that a shot. I was accepted right away.
After a general first year, I chose the interior architecture and design track. I was drawn to applied design rather than fine art, and spatial design interested me. Around that time, I also started DJing at the local club, Atak. Even though I did really well and successfully completed the degree, I spent just as much time on music. My professors noticed it, too. They thought my work was good, but said: You're spending a lot of time on other things. Music was truly my passion, though I remained deeply interested in architecture and design. I sketched, made furniture, and worked very hard for my degree. For me, studies and music were simply two things existing side by side."